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Yet, GH4 and A7s are way too different.

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Like0Aug 27, 2014permalinktabloid What Dp are doing here is very interesting to people like myself.

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That advantage is not realized if you shoot with the same aperture diameter on both cameras.

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Put another way: to resolve the same amount of scene detail, a smaller sensor of equivalent resolution would need a lens of higher resolving power.

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Both have advantages and shortcomings.

Could you please break them apart?

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The compression engines for video and stills are different and the GH series has always suffered when it came to retaining dark detail (separation of those steps) in HD.

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The review for the Sony A6000 is 13 pages long and yet the combo review for GH4 and A7s, which are 2 of the most important hybrid camera releases ever, only gets 14 pages?

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Results match up with what sensor size (and resulting shot noise contributions) and read noise measurements of these cameras would predict.

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A7s and love it.

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GH4 vs A7S looks softer than the Images from the A7S?

Remember that Youtube also has a denoising algorithm so any video posted on Youtube will have less noise.

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ISO tab on the very first (and most important image comparison page, given the context)?

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It is a unique design, made for those that need good low light performance, all other things being second.

Richard, you have used a different TIME and therefore there is a different EXPOSURE RESULT and that is why you cannot use the pictures in the comparison tool and of that because the result is very misleading when you compare!

The larger pixels of the A7S place less demands on the lens.

GH4 sections and a7S sections are clustered together, so that you don't have to read too much about the other camera if you don't want.

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Like1Aug 27, 2014permalinkmrcultureshock I really dislike this combo review.

Have more consistent menu behavior.

Can we see dynamic range tests in video mode, just to see if the DR tests in still mode apply to video.

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Please review the GH4 and the A7s separately.

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Sony is still beating the Panasonic by 2 EV, maybe 3 at high ISOs.

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In other words, both cameras got roughly the same focal plane exposure for any ISO.

As 4K is the key factor for the GH4.

You use a lot of words to explain things they at base wrong and again misleading.

ISO 1600 picture is less detail in the shadows and from my point of view you cannot tell what is best because these pictures are different.

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It makes NO sense.

A7s is your ticket.

GH4 is mostly for video.

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To some of course.

Depends what you want I guess.

ISO DR is a big step down from the other A7 cameras.

Even if you would just publish a static page with selected crops it would already be a boon.

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Sanyal No, that's absolutely false.

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Other people like more detail etc.

Therefore, to get the same effective normalized resolution on the A7S, you could use a lens of lower resolving power than what you'd need on the GH4.

Butler Which cameras are you seeing a discrepancy in?

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Oh and IMHO I still think the A7s has enough limitations to make people think very carefully if they are going to buy one.

And they match up with SNR data from lab tests.

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It is not possible to cover both cameras in this much depth separately.

ISOs other than 100.

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Like9Aug 27, 2014permalink(unknown member) They are currently enjoying their 5 minutes of fame but I am sure plenty of best cameras ever are waiting in the wings.