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Remember that Youtube also has a denoising algorithm so any video posted on Youtube will have less noise.

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Butler Which cameras are you seeing a discrepancy in?

Yet, GH4 and A7s are way too different.

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GH4 is mostly for video.

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ISO tab on the very first (and most important image comparison page, given the context)?

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Therefore, to get the same effective normalized resolution on the A7S, you could use a lens of lower resolving power than what you'd need on the GH4.

It is a unique design, made for those that need good low light performance, all other things being second.

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Like0Aug 27, 2014permalinktabloid What Dp are doing here is very interesting to people like myself.

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Like9Aug 27, 2014permalink(unknown member) They are currently enjoying their 5 minutes of fame but I am sure plenty of best cameras ever are waiting in the wings.

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Like1Aug 27, 2014permalinkmrcultureshock I really dislike this combo review.

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Can we see dynamic range tests in video mode, just to see if the DR tests in still mode apply to video.

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Remember Dp winging on these forums is quite normal.

Have more consistent menu behavior.

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Even if you would just publish a static page with selected crops it would already be a boon.

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Both have advantages and shortcomings.

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Put another way: to resolve the same amount of scene detail, a smaller sensor of equivalent resolution would need a lens of higher resolving power.

It is not possible to cover both cameras in this much depth separately.

As 4K is the key factor for the GH4.

Results match up with what sensor size (and resulting shot noise contributions) and read noise measurements of these cameras would predict.

GH4 sections and a7S sections are clustered together, so that you don't have to read too much about the other camera if you don't want.

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A7s and love it.

ISOs other than 100.

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Could you please break them apart?

Sony is still beating the Panasonic by 2 EV, maybe 3 at high ISOs.

The compression engines for video and stills are different and the GH series has always suffered when it came to retaining dark detail (separation of those steps) in HD.

Sanyal No, that's absolutely false.

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ISO DR is a big step down from the other A7 cameras.

That advantage is not realized if you shoot with the same aperture diameter on both cameras.

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Oh and IMHO I still think the A7s has enough limitations to make people think very carefully if they are going to buy one.

Richard, you have used a different TIME and therefore there is a different EXPOSURE RESULT and that is why you cannot use the pictures in the comparison tool and of that because the result is very misleading when you compare!

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The irony is, with lab testing we'll still get people saying that we should go shoot it in the real world.

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A7s is your ticket.

To some of course.

These cameras are completely unrelated and they each deserved their own review.

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Like0Aug 28, 2014permalinkjosbiker Thank for your explanation.

Other people like more detail etc.

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Keep up the good work.

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And they match up with SNR data from lab tests.

We all know they are perfect at base, but what we really need (in such a video centric comparison) is how far can they be stretched.

DP to review will get larger.

The review for the Sony A6000 is 13 pages long and yet the combo review for GH4 and A7s, which are 2 of the most important hybrid camera releases ever, only gets 14 pages?