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ISO tab on the very first (and most important image comparison page, given the context)?

The larger pixels of the A7S place less demands on the lens.

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It is not possible to cover both cameras in this much depth separately.

A7s is your ticket.

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ISO 1600 picture is less detail in the shadows and from my point of view you cannot tell what is best because these pictures are different.

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GH4 sections and a7S sections are clustered together, so that you don't have to read too much about the other camera if you don't want.

GH4 vs A7S looks softer than the Images from the A7S?

The review for the Sony A6000 is 13 pages long and yet the combo review for GH4 and A7s, which are 2 of the most important hybrid camera releases ever, only gets 14 pages?

Can we see dynamic range tests in video mode, just to see if the DR tests in still mode apply to video.

A7s and love it.

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DP to review will get larger.

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The irony is, with lab testing we'll still get people saying that we should go shoot it in the real world.

Like0Aug 27, 2014permalinktabloid What Dp are doing here is very interesting to people like myself.

Sony is still beating the Panasonic by 2 EV, maybe 3 at high ISOs.

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To some of course.

Depends what you want I guess.

Oh and IMHO I still think the A7s has enough limitations to make people think very carefully if they are going to buy one.

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We all know they are perfect at base, but what we really need (in such a video centric comparison) is how far can they be stretched.

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Remember Dp winging on these forums is quite normal.

ISOs other than 100.

If there are any serious variations from this, let me know.

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Have more consistent menu behavior.

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GH4 is mostly for video.

That advantage is not realized if you shoot with the same aperture diameter on both cameras.

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The compression engines for video and stills are different and the GH series has always suffered when it came to retaining dark detail (separation of those steps) in HD.

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Results match up with what sensor size (and resulting shot noise contributions) and read noise measurements of these cameras would predict.

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Yet, GH4 and A7s are way too different.

Richard, you have used a different TIME and therefore there is a different EXPOSURE RESULT and that is why you cannot use the pictures in the comparison tool and of that because the result is very misleading when you compare!

Please review the GH4 and the A7s separately.

Like0Aug 28, 2014permalinkjosbiker Thank for your explanation.

And they match up with SNR data from lab tests.

Could you please break them apart?

Sanyal No, that's absolutely false.

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Butler Which cameras are you seeing a discrepancy in?

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Like2Aug 27, 2014permalinkduartix Come on DPREVIEW.

In other words, both cameras got roughly the same focal plane exposure for any ISO.

Like1Aug 27, 2014permalinkmrcultureshock I really dislike this combo review.

These cameras are completely unrelated and they each deserved their own review.

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Both have advantages and shortcomings.

You use a lot of words to explain things they at base wrong and again misleading.

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Therefore, to get the same effective normalized resolution on the A7S, you could use a lens of lower resolving power than what you'd need on the GH4.

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ISO DR is a big step down from the other A7 cameras.

Like9Aug 27, 2014permalink(unknown member) They are currently enjoying their 5 minutes of fame but I am sure plenty of best cameras ever are waiting in the wings.